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Chad Chisholm

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PostSubject: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:57 am

UGO A02- They state that "His steers finish on grass in 18 months.".

http://www.forangus.com/bull2.htm
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PostSubject: Re: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:56 am

Chad Chisholm wrote:
UGO A02- They state that "His steers finish on grass in 18 months.".

http://www.forangus.com/bull2.htm

I thought that was an unremarkable claim. I was more interested in the "Ultimate forage efficiency via migrational grazing" claim - what the heck does that mean? that they migrate onto your neighbours pasture hence don't cost you anything to feed or that they migrate back to NZ each winter to reduce feed bills?
I'm always intrigued too by the "massive - but only FS4" claims. What does that mean - they are huge cattle but with short legs - is that a good thing? are huge cattle ever a good thing? This type are always promoted as something to produce smaller cows - but if they are huge can they? really?? sounds a bit farao to me.
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PostSubject: Re: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:09 am

I was ready to put in an order before I went to KA last week and spent the afternoon with MK.
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PostSubject: Re: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:11 am

Much on their page pegs out the BS meter. In the other sires, Patriot and High Pockets influence reimported as superior native grazing genetics. Interesting. Native to where and superior to what? The French Alps and a poke in the eye.

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PostSubject: Re: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:23 am

Kent Powell wrote:
Much on their page pegs out the BS meter. In the other sires, Patriot and High Pockets influence reimported as superior native grazing genetics. Interesting. Native to where and superior to what? The French Alps and a poke in the eye.

KP, yes unhappy with the world.

I hope they are not touting high pockets as genetics to improve your herds fertility. My experience has been opposite with this bull and descendants at this location.
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PostSubject: Re: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:02 am

Ultimate! What it that?

Come on GF, get in the loop. I heard migrational grazing is the term used by a sharp consultant because A television titan turned greenie land baron tore out fences and went au natural. The buffalo went to the river bottoms and made it bare ground along with the side effects that brings. He refused to rotational graze, so it is now called seasonal migration. Change the language to fit the trends, tastes, and preconcieved notions of the people.

My opinion on the massive but moderate thing, yes, I believe 3000 pound bulls sire 2000 pound daughters no matter how tall they are. Were the tall trash and pampered cripples moderate because they were tall but not wide? Yes. It is called an athletic build. I think 2000 pounds on 70" is the same size as 2000 on 52" If you do not live in 3 dimentions your view is askew.

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Chad Chisholm wrote:
UGO A02- They state that "His steers finish on grass in 18 months.".

http://www.forangus.com/bull2.htm

I thought that was an unremarkable claim. I was more interested in the "Ultimate forage efficiency via migrational grazing" claim - what the heck does that mean? that they migrate onto your neighbours pasture hence don't cost you anything to feed or that they migrate back to NZ each winter to reduce feed bills?
I'm always intrigued too by the "massive - but only FS4" claims. What does that mean - they are huge cattle but with short legs - is that a good thing? are huge cattle ever a good thing? This type are always promoted as something to produce smaller cows - but if they are huge can they? really?? sounds a bit farao to me.


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PostSubject: Re: "His steers finish on grass in 18 months."   Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:06 am

And noe the rest of the story. Paso robles has some pretty fair growing conditions, and Animals dont get Alot of stress from the weather ..http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCA0842
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