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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:09 pm

Dylan Biggs wrote:
We certainly won't Mike! Any preliminary guess on the number of people? We wouldn't want anyone to go hungry! 

Mike I told this cocktail brindle people were coming from far and wide to check her out. She seemed a bit quizzical.


She seemed a bit quizzical...

Me too...we know there is no commercial demand for purebreds; is there really any commercial need for purebreds?
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:28 pm

A little taster:

Typical scene in the neighbourhood this time of year


Before moving cows this a.m. This alsike clover was seeded through the cow minerals.


The piece they moved off - as Berry said its all about building soil.


A yearling bull I'm using on a few cows - the closest bred i've used to date - 22.47% IBC
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:16 am

awww...a man breeding purebreds...Smile 
and the name grassfarmer is so applicable...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:17 am

Because of our age related physical handicaps, Betty and I very much regret that we are unable to attend this years KC gathering. For those of us who are unable to attend, for our enjoyment and common interest, I do expect a host of pictures and interesting comments to be posted on Keeney's Corner. Thank you Hilly, Grassfarmer and Dylan for your helpful generosity hosting this years special event and of course to MK for coordinating it.

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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:40 pm

Can I make the motion that we appoint Jocelyn Biggs as official photographer for the gathering then we'll have some good pictures to post? Tell her not to worry about the green pointy things in the background of my pictures Dylan - they are trees and they are quite harmless:) 
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:34 pm

I've been hoping for a bit of rain to ease the irrigating schedule, but it ain't going to happen. So, my family and I will not attend this year. I want to extend an invitation to those going, that if they need a place to stay for a night or two in Western MT, please feel free to call and stop in. This also extends to the Northern friends should their travels bring them through this part of the state. I'm sure a great time will be had by all!

Ralph Larson - 406-360-3793.
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:25 pm

Larry Leonhardt wrote:
Because of our age related physical handicaps, Betty and I very much regret that we are unable to attend this years KC gathering.    For those of us who are unable to attend, for our enjoyment and common interest,  I do expect a host of pictures and interesting comments to be posted on Keeney's Corner.   Thank you Hilly, Grassfarmer and Dylan for your helpful generosity hosting this years special event and of course to MK for coordinating it.

LL

it`s alright Larry...Hilly said the department store will let us return all the red carpet we had purchased...trying to compete with the royal baby would have been too much anyway...I came in from the doctor appointment today and Linda couldn`t tear herself from the TV watching for THE baby...finally she asked what the doc had to say, and I said "my ejaculation fraction was perfect"...she says "I thought you went to the heart doctor"...women:!:  Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

of course I had gone to the heart doctor,
ejection fraction (EF) represents the volumetric fraction of blood pumped out of the ventricle (heart) with each heart beat or cardiac cycle. It can be applied to either the right ventricle which ejects via the pulmonary valve into the pulmonary circulation or the left ventricle which ejects via the aortic valve into the systemic circulation. Smile 

Ralph,
hoping to introduce you to a fellow who has bought a small place up your way; and bought some heifers from me in the spring...he might need some ranching advice after making the move from Mississippi to Montana Smile ...I hope to visit you both someday...some summer day, that is Smile 
I always enjoy your pictures of real cattle in beautiful places...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:15 pm

Thanks Mike, It would be great to have you visit us! I will look forward to meeting your friend. Please feel free to share my contact information with him.

Here's a picture of heifer calves I took last month.

Ralph

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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:41 pm

Sure would like to see some more of those nice calves that are the right color.cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:07 am

RedBulls wrote:
Thanks Mike, It would be great to have you visit us! I will look forward to meeting your friend. Please feel free to share my contact information with him.

Here's a picture of heifer calves I took last month.

Ralph

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isn`t it just pretty easy to make good cattle? cattle breeding must be made complicated in order to sell the results for more than they are worth...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:26 pm

Thanks W.T. Although if those heifers were side views, you might see some white on the bellies! I try to keep solid reds as replacements, but if one with some white (or even a roan) has what I consider more acceptable criteria and lineage, it sure won’t keep her out of my replacement pen. If we ever get a “rain day”, I will put some more pictures up on a new thread. We’re pretty blessed to live in such a scenic place, so the background naturally enhances the pictures.
Mike, I will be forever grateful for finding your site, as well as for the effort it takes for you to maintain it. As I've said before…, reading (and re-reading) Larry’s philosophies have been very gratifying to me. They provided a great deal of positive reinforcement to conclusions I was coming around to. I hope this doesn't embarrass Larry, but I have my suspicions that he possesses one of the greatest minds to come along in a long while when it comes to common sense cattle breeding. Going around in circles on a tractor is pretty conducive to deep thinking.
I sure wish I was heading up North to the gathering! For anyone driving, I would sure recommend taking Hwy. 22 North to Calgary. The drive along the Canadian Rockies goes through some of the most beautiful ranching country on the continent. I’m sure a good time will be had by all!
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:44 am

Ralph,
your kind words make the website effort all worthwhile ; if our joy came from making big money, we would need to be creating and following myths, rather than busting them.
yeah, Larry has a pretty good head on his shoulders, and a right amount of humility; derived perhaps from cattle breeding scratch scratch scratch scratch scratch scratch hmmm, no, on second thought, from human genetics and human environment; the blowhard covers up his mistakes rather than being humbled from them..  
...I see the Jammer has been referencing the one cattle book he ever read; Courageous Cattlemen; about the breeders who started the performance testing effort...no, it doesn`t include a single mistake any of the breeders made, so it is , in reality, just another jazzed up promotion of registered rarity breeding.
Will any of the cattle any of us breed be so prepotent  in fixed gene order so that they have effect beyond an owner`s lifetime? nahhhh, but maybe worthy of someone continuing the work IF they understand the principles that created the cattle to begin with...
so finally, cattle breeders will be remembered, not by the  temporary cattle they created, but by their human qualities...I`ll remember from the book the greed and arrogance that sent a breeder to prison, the bigger than possible BS stories of another, the conviction of another that kept him from seeing "performance" was ruining the cows, and that the author went broke breeding for "performance" and on it goes...
so it`s human qualities that are remembered by other humans , so I think of Larry`s kindness and humility...as for myself, I hope to be remembered as someone who didn`t give a damn about what the majority of people thought; for the majority has a track record of getting conned more often than being right...
enough philosophy as I skip my morning oats and coffee awaiting a routine blood test...

did someone say "white"? Smile a couple of weaning age whites...





I sure enjoy my whites that are beginning to take the shape I want...another moderate average gene pool, more than my Angus, but far less than the Chars today ...I threw the papers away early on, no performance or epds, no registered or personal bias, just closed the herd to selection of my criteria...and if it goes defunct, I know where to go to rejuvenate it...

O Canada cheers cheers Smile
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:50 am

the primary profit ingredient is not genetics...



trying to imitate Grassfarmer; second year red clover; grazed down twice already;frost seeded in Feb 2012 with a ATV seeder...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:10 pm

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I think the benefits are long term here, and only if you summarize this data into information you can use. For example, I keep a laminated 11x14 sheet with a hair score, bcs score, weaning weight and ratio, weight, calving interval, and two columns for AI and ET percentage. I update the BCS and hair score quarterly. I also have a misc column for any ongoing attitude, udder problems, structure issues, or feet problems. I check BCS and hair scores constantly, but I score them on, or about, 3/15, 6/15, 9/15, and 12/15. I pull the weights, ratios, and calving intervals from angus online. With about five years of data, you see some revealing trends. There are a few cows that stick first service either to AI or ET every year, and there are a few that are very difficult to get bred AI. There are a few big rips that wean off light calves as a percentage of their weight, and a few that wean off an astounding percentage of their weight. There are a few cows that are slicked off year round, and a few that keep their winter coats well into September. This cheat sheet really helps at culling time, particularly on the management issues that are not well defined with objective data.

close the herd, grow some grass, and keep the doers...
get your senses about you, take a deep breath, and go for the pin...



what seems like an eternity is only 175 yards later; one of 83 steps Wednesday...



oh, if cattle breeding could only be as fast and as decisive as golf...

the thrill of a small success is surpassed only by the beauty of the journey...O Canada , the next stop along the way cheers
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:28 pm

MKeeney wrote:
the primary profit ingredient is not genetics...actually it is one step farther, it's the soil under that forage



trying to imitate Grassfarmer; second year red clover; grazed down twice already;frost seeded in Feb 2012 with a ATV seeder...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:12 pm

excellent point...ever seen a Bluegrass horse farm Robert? usually mowed closer, and kept neater than lots of golf courses...I`ve a couple of friends with that perspective; maybe I`m just too lazy to fret about a few weeds...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:09 pm

That surprised me Mike - I'd have thought your summer heat would have been too much for red clover. Doesn't take much of a drought up here to set it back. I'm going to try this frost seeding deal next year on a former hayfield I rent.
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:01 pm

barring a calamity, will sneakers be adequate for the entire trip, or should I pack some boots? or there snakes and other hissing, biting things?
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:11 pm

Don't know about Dylan's country but there aren't any snakes or hissing things in my part of the world and I'll warn my dog to be on his best behaviour Evil or Very Mad 
Sneakers should be just fine I would think although Hilly gets way more rain than me Smile
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:32 pm

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Don't know about Dylan's country but there aren't any snakes or hissing things in my part of the world and I'll warn my dog to be on his best behaviour Evil or Very Mad 
Sneakers should be just fine I would think although Hilly gets way more rain than me Smile

I`m trying to convince Linda to just take half her clothes going; they buy the other half in Canada; then packed full coming home...one way or another, she`s going to buy something that says...Canada cheers Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:48 am

the greatest Canadian philosopher I know of was rumored to be autistic...just take his golf advice and apply it to cattle breeding

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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:16 am

Dylan Biggs wrote:
Schedule for the O Canada gathering Aug 1,2,3rd, 2013

The plan, as is now, is to meet Thursday Aug 1st, afternoon in Sylvan Lake at the Boston Pizza at 5:00 pm for dinner. Sylvan Lake is 20 minutes driving time west of [url=http://maps.google.ca/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=Red Deer Alberta Google]Red Deer Alberta[/url]. Click on the italicized underlined Red Deer for a google map link. Then one can zoom out for an expanded view of the locations. Best to take Hi-way 11 west of Red Deer to get to Sylvan Lake.

Friday, Aug 2nd, morning breakfast everyone is fending for themselves.
Meet at 9:30 at Hilly's, right close to Sylvan.
Lunch at Hilly's at 12:30.
Arrive at GF's at 2:00
GF's is right close to Rimbey which is about 40 minutes driving time north and a bit west on Hi-way 20 from Sylvan Lake. Location of Rimbey can be viewed by expanding the view of the Red Deer google map link.
Dinner 5:00 pm at Leedale hall, a mile from GF's.
Saturday, Aug 3rd, morning, breakfast on own.
Depart for TK Ranch at 9:00 am. About 3 hours east of Red Deer on Hi-way 12 toward Coronation then south on Hi-way 872.
Arrive at the Spondin hall at 12:30 five miles east of TK Ranch.
Dinner 6:00 at Spondin hall.

More detailed information will be coming as regards driving directions, local attractions and accommodation.

Dylan

Thank you Wayne for noting the lack of actual dates. Which part of the trip do you want to do horseback?

Mike, it was great!  Laughing
 
Some of the plans are changed but this was the original rough outline as far as time break down.
 
The hotel in Sylvan Lake is the Best Western Plus Chateau Inn; address is 5027 Lakeshore Drive Sylvan Lake,Phone # 403-887-7788.
 
The rooms are $132 plus 9% tax for a total $144 per night and they are reserved under KC Gathering. The rooms are paid for so just pick up keys at the front desk for either a King or Double Queen which ever you need and we can square up sometime during the gathering.
 
Originally we had planned a Thursday 5:00pm meal at Boston Pizza for those that want to meet up. Address, 61 Beju Industrial Dr, Sylvan Lake.
 
The first stop on Friday at 9:30am will be a group of cattle located north of town, you head north on highway 20(about 4 miles) to Aspelund Road turn left on Aspelund (west, gravel) and go west one mile, turn right (north) a few hundred yards first place on the left. (Little blue house, small steel Quonset and a couple of larger grain bins.)
 
I posted a couple of short hikes the other day and my parents have been out touring in the mountains and reported back that the Siffleur falls hike the flooding washed out the second bridge and I’m not sure when they will get to fixing it.
 
Looking forward to seeing everyone, any questions I can be reached at 403-588-7001.
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:33 pm

Some minor changes on my end. No longer having dinner at the local hall Friday evening instead we will head into Rimbey to eat at Monteray Jacks restaurant. I set that for 6pm rather than 5pm as that was a little too early for them and besides Tom D might still be looking for that elusive bull with perfect feet Smile  It only takes 15 minutes or so to get to Rimbey from my place.
After Hilly's tour we will actually head west on HWY 11 and north through Eckville rather than go by HWY20/Rimbey but I'm assuming we will be adopting the leader:follower driving method as usual.
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:19 pm

Day one a success; we, including the In folks, made it to Calgary...Lots of interest for the Thursday screening, Hobson says it will take a day just to see what Hilly has going on...lots of interest outside just cattle breeding as expected...
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PostSubject: Re: O Canada Gathering 2013   Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:50 pm

Mike,
Thanks for the update and hope that you will keep us posted on the events and fun in Canada. I had been looking forward to the Canada trip all year, but it turned out that there were too many irons in the fire in addition to my II reservations not coming through. It has been a summer where nothing seems to get done on time, but at least we have had moisture and there is always next year.
Thanks!
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