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PostSubject: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:22 am

I need pictures of your most, or even any productive cow in your herd, for a project...even if you have posted those pics elsewhere, it sure would save me lots of searching to have them all here; all colors and breeds and areas of the world needed...I don`t need any pedigrees, data, etc...thx, mk
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:09 am

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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:49 am

Productive as in pounds weaned or productive as in daughters retained?

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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:03 am

Jack McNamee wrote:
Productive as in pounds weaned or productive as in daughters retained?

Jack
just for "type" purposes, not for breeding purposes, lifetime productive as in lbs and having a calf yearly...
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:50 pm

Do you need pictures in the next 15 minutes or towards the end of the week? clown
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:10 pm

chocolate cow wrote:
Do you need pictures in the next 15 minutes or towards the end of the week? clown

CC,
at your convenience before Oct 1...let`s amend this to say "not a cow you can`t replicate, as in no once in a lifetime outlier"...just a good work and wear cow in your herd that will stand still for a picture
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:37 pm

Mike, you will have to give me a demerit or two.....Sent two for you to pick from.

Eight year old (The number 1 cow in your lineup....Ole WRY face)


Ten year old dam
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:00 am

good pictures all...and as I thought, the characteristics and type are much the same; some slight differences created by feed, not genetics; ...all to show how Bonsma had it right 50 years ago, and the registered con game keeps trying to change them rather than accept them as the best they can be...
I want to put together a collage showing how the same type prevails.

whose cow is this btw...a recent addition to my photo bucket...a Shoshone LL? if not, I`d be quick to claim her as mine...even buy her Smile


the title of my little powerpoint accumulation may be
Judging for Maternal-A Consensus
or maybe
Bonsma Revisted

send more...expecially of other breeds/colors/crosses...
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:36 am

MKeeney wrote:
good pictures all...and as I thought, the characteristics and type are much the same; some slight differences created by feed, not genetics; ...all to show how Bonsma had it right 50 years ago, and the registered con game keeps trying to change them rather than accept them as the best they can be...
I want to put together a collage showing how the same type prevails.

whose cow is this btw...a recent addition to my photo bucket...a Shoshone LL? if not, I`d be quick to claim her as mine...even buy her Smile


the title of my little powerpoint accumulation may be
Judging for Maternal-A Consensus
or maybe
Bonsma Revisted

send more...expecially of other breeds/colors/crosses...

Mike sounds like an interesting presentation. Who will you be presenting to? Btw that is my cow. She has a ways to go time wise to qualify for your category. I have others old cows, 1997, and 1998 muzzle loader substantail models, that do, that I will post for you. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:20 am

Dylan,
I hope to have a couple of opportunities in the works for this presentation...my thoughts are to build this using mostly condensed KC contributions ; maybe if the women folk can stand it, have a premier presentation Friday night in Miles City for critique, and when WE get it good enough, make copies for presentation by our members at every Wal-Mart genetics store around the world...who says we are thinking small? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:29 am

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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:27 pm

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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:53 pm


1997 Model
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:53 pm

Some awful nice pics everyone.How come i haven't seen a pic of a power cow yet? Or are they only in the Angus Journal, or fancy sale catalogs?
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:42 pm

Went out this morning in search for this cow, I wanted to get a picture of her for the cow family thread and never got around to it, she is 15 years old and not an excellent cow, as when you hold a level to her udder it is sloped Shocked



Anyway she is from the 81 cow family and it didn’t matter who I bred 81 to I always ended up with replacements and it is the same with all her daughters, the cow pictured (112) is her oldest daughter out of a A.I bull to emphasize my point Smile

81 herself had to be put down two years ago from a broken hip.

The first cow I picture in this thread, although only 8 in the picture is 10 today and still looks the same, but comes from the 108 cow family, another dominant cow line that you just can’t screw up.

We have it pretty easy up here compared to most everyone so my cows don’t have to be as functional to get age as most and it would be hard to beat Grassy’s cow for age Smile



This would be the most productive and oldest cow I have owned, i've posted before with one of her last calves, but she barley replaced herself once in her lifetime.






The last picture may not belong here but this was the first cow Grassy and I came upon on a Red Lodge walk I have no idea her number just one of LL’s many unsung cows but the silhouette gives me all the data I need.




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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:23 pm

from Wayne`s world...

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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:10 pm

Quote :
I have no idea her number just one of LL’s many unsung cows but the silhouette gives me all the data I need.

oh no, oh no...there`s just no love in that statement...this from a NE extension specialist...

Quote :
"Being an animal breeder in the beef industry is akin to loving a beautiful woman that won't love you back, I love the beef industry but the general lack of adoption of things such as EPD's, economic indexes, and even crossbreeding is appalling."


oh my goodness, first I had to deal with making Unwanted ...Wanted Smile but my heifers and cows love Unwanted; so here comes the Cornhusker I`m naming Unloved...but I can`t help him; he will just have to find his solace in his paycheck...

so these cow exhibits point out vividly the general type that is most productive..."form following function"...

we know and use the heritability of traits...what is the heritability of type?

which would be more accurate... epds or visual judging to sort a group of yearling heifers for cow potential if you knew no other background ? what epd`s would Mr. Unloved provide to select a cow?








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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:14 pm


a 2000 model
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:24 pm

Gus wrote:

a 2000 model

and a pic in production would be great, Gus
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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:32 pm

MKeeney wrote:
Gus wrote:

a 2000 model

and a pic in production would be great, Gus
Unfortunately I don't have one, will be several days before I make it back to the ranch, and she normally doesn't poise well, here's one of her daughter almost as good, 2005 model.



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PostSubject: Re: most productive cow   Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:38 pm

I`m sure my/our credentials will be called into question...where and who has posted that picture of Harlan Ritchie with that little fat toad Angus heifer? then with a Chi bull tall as his head? I need both...
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