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PostSubject: the KY Mag 60 program   Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:00 pm

this is the kind of crap I detest paid for with mine and Phillip Morris USA money stolen by the giverment...and I see the words
"federal grants", so soon to be yourrrrrr money....mk

The MAG-60 Program
To enhance the value of our feeder calves, KBN proposes the MAG (Management And Genetics) -60 (60-day postweaning) program. In this program, KBN will partner with beef producers to synchronize estrus in their beef females for timed insemination. Females will be time-inseminated to reduce the labor costs associated with AI. Producers will AI their females to a small, select group of sires that are proven in their ability to sire productive, profitable calves. The sires used will be selected by a committee that consists of UK Beef Extension Specialists, representatives of the semen supply companies, KBN, and producers. The same sires will be used for the entire project (3 breeding seasons).


Steers sired by AI will be managed according to CPH health requirements and will be backgrounded for a minimum of 60 days postweaning. The calves will be age and source verified and will be subjected to ultrasound to determine potential carcass merit. Thus, we will be marketing feeder steers that are age, source, and genetically verified for superior performance. According to our previous data (see above), these calves are $150 more valuable at harvest than steers from the same herds that are sired by non-proven natural service sires. Marketing agents in Kentucky have predicted that feeder calves that are age, source, and genetically verified are likely worth $7-10 more per hundred than a normal CPH-45 feeder if sold in load lots. Feeders produced in this program will be marketed in co-mingled, CPH-like feeder calf sales.


The heifers from the MAG-60 program will also greatly enhance the ability of our producers to increase profits. First, since all calves will be subjected to carcass ultrasonography, our cooperators herds can retain heifers with the genetic potential to excel in carcass traits. The ultrasound data can also be used to cull the cow herd of low performing mature cows. Second, heifers not retained will be developed and sold in a premium bred-heifer sale. This heifer sale(s) should also increase the cooperator's opportunity to diversify their marketing options and increase the profit potential.


Marketing data indicates that numerous loads of like cattle are needed to optimize market value. To obtain at least 1,000 steers for market, we must AI about 4,000 cows (50-60% conception rate and 50% of each sex). Thus, we need to AI at least 4,000 females a season to ensure 1,000 steers will be available to market.


The Requirements


KBN will provide:


•$20 per female for semen and AI technician charges

•½ of the cost of the ultrasound

•List of potential sires

•Promotion of the program

Producers will provide:


•All costs for estrus synchronization products (approximately $20-$25)

•Labor and facilities to accomplish the AI

•½ of the cost of the ultrasound

•Cost for age and source verification

Expectations of producers:


•Provide a healthy, properly conditioned female for estrus synchronization

•Pay for the synchronization pharmaceuticals, labor, and facilities to accomplish the timed AI

•Work with the KBN field representatives and the AI service technicians to coordinate breeding

•Process the cattle to meet CPH-45 health requirements

•Age and source verify the cattle

•Background the cattle for a minimum of 60 days before sale

•Subject the cattle to carcass ultrasound and pay for one-half of the cost

•Market the calves through MAG-60 sales (either feeder calf or bred heifer sales)

•If the producer chooses to market the cattle elsewhere, the producer will reimburse KBN for the full amount of the cost-share ($20 for AI plus the cost of the ultrasound). Cooperators will sign a contract that indicates they will market their feeders through MAG-60 or repay KBN their costs.

Expectations of KBN:


•Provide funding for cost of semen and service ($20)

•Provide funding for one-half the cost of the carcass ultrasonography

•Work with the faculty at the University of Kentucky to develop a list of bulls of various breeds to use and a breeding strategy

•Provide personal service and technical support to organize the estrus synchronization and AI, age and source verification, carcass ultrasonography, and sale dates and delivery

•Promote the MAG-60 sales

Benchmarks


Fall 2011 - synchronize and AI 4,000 commercial beef females


Spring 2012 - synchronize and AI 4,000 commercial beef females


Fall 2012 - synchronize and AI 4,000 commercial beef females


We assume that 2400 calves will be sired by AI each of these seasons. We project that we will be able to market 1,140 steers and 740 heifers. We anticipate about 400 heifers to be retained for breeding in the herds of the cooperators.


Potential for Future Research


The University of Kentucky will be collecting hair samples from each cow in every breeding herd. We will also obtain a sample from the bulls used for AI. These samples will be stored and the data collected. The data that will be collected includes shipping weight, post-weaning carcass ultrasonography, conception rate to AI, and cow performance of those heifers that are retained in the breeding herds. We are also plan to work with the marketing agents to obtain as much of the feedlot and carcass performance as possible.


These data will be collected and used to help secure future federal grants. Dr. Darrh Bullock at the University of Kentucky is a member of the National Beef Cattle Evaluation Consortium. This group of geneticists is leading the national effort in identifying genes associated with the important economic traits in beef cattle production. These will be unique data and could help advance our knowledge on the genetic regulation of growth, feedlot performance, and reproductive performance of beef cattle.

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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:23 pm

Oh my!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Not really shocked...it's just more of the same old nonsense.
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:41 pm

It is as if the frontal lobe of the vast majority has been overcome by the the MIB strobelight of amnesia and they are walking around in a daze of vacuous simplicity repeating over and over, don't ask why, this it just the way it is.
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:48 pm

Hey, Mike can you keep me posted on that premium bred-heifer sale...I can hardly wait...wonder if DF is going?
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:08 pm

MK, did they hit their benchmarks of ~4,000 females AI'd?
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:44 pm

df wrote:
MK, did they hit their benchmarks of ~4,000 females AI'd?
looking for another 1500 last I read...the SSire guy was just here...I told him business must be slow...bailout time for the AI studs...
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:14 pm

MKeeney wrote:
df wrote:
MK, did they hit their benchmarks of ~4,000 females AI'd?
looking for another 1500 last I read...the SSire guy was just here...I told him business must be slow...bailout time for the AI studs...

It will be interesting if they hit their conception rate targets. I wonder if all of these are new to AI or if anybody had any experience prior to this project.
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:51 pm

we`ll never hear anything but the good; universities are too much like registered breeders...
when little fat shorts were in favor, universities bred them...then "performance", then "war of fat",then "frame", back to performance, now carcass...and their cows? well, they just don`t matter now do they? or oh hell, they`re Angus, they`ll be fine...

well, my good friends, they won`t be fine...they`ll just be kinda ok, but the promotion will be grand...I noticed a bunch of Whermann $1000 heifers bring $4500 today...mighty good day to be a sale manager if the buyers pay for what they bought...
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:58 pm

So another one bites the dust. Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:07 pm

how elementary is the support for this mag60 silliness as I prepare my rebuttal...looks like something the U of MO would have concocted if they had the money....into the temple tomorrow night to upset the county agents who get their MAG 60 directions from the dean on high ...wonder if any farmers there will prefer suggestions to rid ourselves of the money changers? maybe Joe should have come over to insure at least one besides the guy who invited me ...three would make a nice fightin`company Smile

should see you by early afternoon Friday, Mr and Mrs. Bootheel...
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PostSubject: Re: the KY Mag 60 program   Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:12 pm

MKeeney wrote:
how elementary is the support for this mag60 silliness as I prepare my rebuttal...looks like something the U of MO would have concocted if they had the money....into the temple tomorrow night to upset the county agents who get their MAG 60 directions from the dean on high ...wonder if any farmers there will prefer suggestions to rid ourselves of the money changers? maybe Joe should have come over to insure at least one besides the guy who invited me ...three would make a nice fightin`company Smile

should see you by early afternoon Friday, Mr and Mrs. Bootheel...

Aye just like the three musketeers all for one one for all .
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