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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:08 am

I'll be a contrarian here and say I'm quite happy to let you guys experiment with the multisire groups. I'm quite happy not to have the deaths or injuries. I'll never be on the scale or in the environment that requires multi-sire groups or 25,000 acre pastures. We run single sire groups and once we pull the bulls they run together with the developing young bulls. We get very little fighting and the old bulls teach the young ones some manners. I always heard Angus were the fightingist buggers anyway.

GF in the vicinity of not worrying about injured/dead or sulking bulls.
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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:38 am

DV,
Do you think Angus bulls would get some heifers bred running beside Longhorns with horns? I have a hard time seeing that happening...
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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:55 am

MK, As long as the angus are of Shoshone blood and not mainstream junk (like Jimmer Jammers appendix brangus home boy) I'd run a trial. the horn boys have a lot of bluff, the Shoshones have alot of smarts, you might be surprised at how the Shoshones would out think the horns . DV near stout coffee
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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:55 am

Mike,

I sold a couple 2 year old bulls to a coriente producer. He was not happy with them. He said they just stood in the corner scared to death of the old coriente bulls. I can't say that I blame them.


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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:58 am

No swinging of T Posts from this direction. I am not a hijacked thread (or is it a string?) facist. Conversation and learning seldom fits in structured outline form, at least not when I am involved in it.



W.T wrote:
Keystone i apologizes for getting carried away with the feet on your thread. and thank you for the info on the multi sire problems with large groups of yearling's. So far we have only turned out 4 each year with the older bulls and have not had any problems. We put all the bulls together in march and turn them with the cows in July and we have not had any problems so far with bulls getting hurt we have 12 bulls in one 25000 acre pasture and they scatter pretty well. we have had a few bulls get demoted and they seem to leave the herd and we find them in the neighbors pasture sulking. we are just getting started at this and we will have some wrecks.
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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:16 pm

I`m anxious to send DV an Unwanted or two just to see if they can survive a summer in the bull ring with no cape...gotta be careful though, if they did breed some heifers, because then it`s my survival on the line...damn, how I hate responsibilty outside my own fences...and with no epds, no AAA, no registration papers, no guru leader, I got no one to blame any mishaps on but me !
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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:45 am

Here is a video of the same bulls three weeks before. Same two bulls who were in a standoff in the previous clip. Starts about 20 sec. in. I was 3/4 mile away when I noticed the fight. They were in a little trap around the tank eating cake, and I decided to watch. I knew I would have a fence to fix, but they respected the electricity.

http://youtu.be/oJAyiQzlCBM
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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:47 am



I wanted to see if I could spark this subject up again.

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PostSubject: Re: Multiple Sire group behavior   Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:13 pm

Interesting topic. Its funny to me that multiple sire groups are such an oddity in seedstock herds, especially with the availability of parentage testing via DNA. To me, libido is such an important facet of what makes a good bull, and it seems like there's no other way to measure it than to have a little competition.
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