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PostSubject: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:50 pm

I may have dodged a bullet, but took a few direct hits this time. The fall calves have pinkeye running rampant. It started within a week of giving them all their vaccinations this spring.....MLive, pasturella, pinkeye, clostridium. The calves weaned nicely, little to no stress observed in the weaning process at the end of march, then worked them the first of April and again at the end of April.

Last year I gave everything a autogenous, custom made pinkeye vaccine......ended up with the worst pinkeye, ever. I did not give the cows any this time, and so far so good.

The vet seemed to think there is more issue with the modified live- respiratory vaccine, than the pinkeye, but I think it is a combination of both of them.

As bad is this outbreak is, and with the now miserable hot temperatures, I will probably lose condition on the calves this month.

Oh and since Larkota likes my idiot stories......blind calf today went through 3 fences, and two ponds, fixed a little fence......then got him roped in the lake, skied him out. I had him leading pretty nice back into the corral. Went to shut the gate, while dallied, half assed, Blindy ducks under Duck, zings 45 foot of rope through my hands, but I got re-dallied before running out of glove, hide, or rope. It was almost a really good entertaining wreck, almost.


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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:54 pm

What techniques do you use to reduce stress in weaned calves?
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:52 pm

DF, we sort them quiet, this year weaned the cows instead by drylotting the cows for two days and left the calves on grass. The calves never skipped a beat, and by the second day the cows were sure enough wanting green grass more than a tit puller. It was the best I have seen weaning go here yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:00 am

Bootheel was in my mid 20's before I started roping. when I finally caught one was very excited, but found the true meaning of thums up. kept all my digets, but didnt pick nose left handed for months.

then there was the time a herford bull that excaped from the local salebarn. roped him out of the back of a pickup but driver could not keep up. dont like the smell of burnt leather Laughing had to snag the rope off the ground going in reverse. way to much beer but no baldies the following year.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:57 pm

A couple of weary and hot bulls in pastures here...temp 82; humidty 70% at 8:54 pm...fall calving looks better every year...
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:26 pm

Mike, all the males are suffering from heat weariness today. I was talking to the local car dealer today at the salebarn, and number of cows per bull came up. He said 20 to 1 ought to work, I said I sure am glad its them instead of me. As hot as it is I'm not sure 1 for each would get it done. My diet, heat solution, is eat about five or six times a day. Burger at 5, milkshake with strawberries and blueberries at dark when I get in, and as many MGD's as I have room for, for desert. Still wasting away like Ioway cornfed bull living on pondwater and promises though. Come fall please airlift a pallet of turnovers for me, before the next breeding season hits, as I am afraid I will fail my BSE.


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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:07 am

Sure are some different environments on this continent, maybe something to think about when moving cattle around willy nilly. I think we have had a couple of days where we scraped over the 65F mark this year - we suffered a bit of frost damage to orchard grass and clover in the last 10 days - snow last Saturday morning. Some of our cattle are quite hairy still from winter and its only two weeks to the longest day.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:21 am

The more we try to move locations beyond semen, the tougher it gets in this order...semen, bulls, heifers, and God forbid...cows
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:12 am

I've had good luck with ET, but also moved 3 breds with calves from central CO...had one of the two heifer calves not breed, but the cows never missed.

Been pushing 100F here the last 10 days with 80+ humidity...maybe it will cool a bid before the bulls go in a month from now.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:24 am

Saw an article yesterday that speculated the violent and extreme weather patterns we are seeing is the ''new normal''. Without getting into global warming or possibly just a period on natural weather extremes it seems to me modern ag is ill prepared on many fronts if that is the case.

Subsidizing crops in areas that are ill suited is obvious. Beyond that perhaps a lot more attention needs to be given to regionally and even locally adapted genetic lines - although they are becoming as rare as some of fthe heritage breeds of chickens and hogs.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:45 pm

You can almost sort cows purchased, from home raised, by hair quality and body condition. There are a few expections, but the ratio would appear to be the reciprocal of home raised. I do think there is more to it than genetic.


I would add though, that the new bulls, exhibit excellent hair coats, slick, shiny, and black. Which I am begining to wish we could turn them all red or white or yellow, anything but black. Why in the world would black brangus, be the ticket in the south? I may go red cow shopping in the near future. Any good red's out there in fescueville?
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:55 pm

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You can almost sort cows purchased, from home raised, by hair quality and body condition. There are a few expections, but the ratio would appear to be the reciprocal of home raised. I do think there is more to it than genetic.


I would add though, that the new bulls, exhibit excellent hair coats, slick, shiny, and black. Which I am begining to wish we could turn them all red or white or yellow, anything but black. Why in the world would black brangus, be the ticket in the south? I may go red cow shopping in the near future. Any good red's out there in fescueville?
I did an eyeball evaluation of white with black noses yesterday...I can say, as I rarely do, unequivocally, I sure liked what I saw!
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:21 pm

I saw a red nose today, well closer to purple actually - a problem this time of year. It threw me the first time I saw it but discovered it is a photosensitivity issue linked to the high protein content of the early grass and a poorly functioning liver. This is the third I've had in ten years - all red Angus cows. It causes the nose and teats to sunburn and the skin to crack and break off eventually. Bringing them home and keeping them around the corrals with some dry feed (hay) and shade gets them over the problem eventually then we ship them at weaning. Has anyone else experienced this and does it occur in black Angus also?
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:38 am

We have had Photosensitivity in black and white spotted Longhorn cross cows. It is appearently caused by lush Kochia (fireweed). Only the white patches would peel. The hide would come off in sheets. Right down to the skin on their nose. It took all summer with dry hay in a barn to get them healed up to eat or sell. About the only survivability weakness we found in Longhorns, but it was always the crossbreds. Perhaps Angus are the problem genetically, but it does not affect black skin.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:34 am

We had that problem years ago in a yellow and white Simmental although the plant trigger would be different. Last year we had a blue/green algae poisoning outbreak on a group of yearlings grazing in a swamp which caused the skin to go brittle and peel off. I shot one that made a crackling noise as she walked as she was just in too much pain. They were tan charolais yearlings. Strange how the black cattle are said to be less heat tolerant yet the white or light colored cattle are more suceptable to these sun caused ailments.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:44 am

Okay, scratch the red, white, and blue deal. We'll just leave 'em black, and go from there.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:10 am

It is interesting.


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We had that problem years ago in a yellow and white Simmental although the plant trigger would be different. Last year we had a blue/green algae poisoning outbreak on a group of yearlings grazing in a swamp which caused the skin to go brittle and peel off. I shot one that made a crackling noise as she walked as she was just in too much pain. They were tan charolais yearlings. Strange how the black cattle are said to be less heat tolerant yet the white or light colored cattle are more suceptable to these sun caused ailments.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:37 pm

RobertMac wrote:
I've had good luck with ET, but also moved 3 breds with calves from central CO...had one of the two heifer calves not breed, but the cows never missed.

Been pushing 100F here the last 10 days with 80+ humidity...maybe it will cool a bid before the bulls go in a month from now.

Robert, I see a concentrated effort and considerable success among some Beefmaster breeders to get the ear and sheath off....will the genes left be the equivalent of mostly Shorthorn and Hereford characteristics while saying bye bye to fly resistance?
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:40 pm

Mike, I've worked on cleaning up sheathes by using my clean sheath bulls. Never thought about ears or why I should.
Don't know how to measure fly resistance, but parasite resistance is still excellent.
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:12 pm

RobertMac wrote:
Mike, I've worked on cleaning up sheathes by using my clean sheath bulls. Never thought about ears or why I should.
Don't know how to measure fly resistance, but parasite resistance is still excellent.

the commodity markets will dock "ear"...only reason
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:01 am

name this breed...

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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:47 am

I guess I shouldn't play
Do we get extra points for naming the program? Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:16 am

RobertMac wrote:
I guess I shouldn't play
Do we get extra points for naming the program? Twisted Evil

wulf? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:24 am

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PostSubject: Re: Pinkeye and other summer ills   Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:34 am

Kent Powell wrote:
http://www.isacattleco.com/Beefmasters/company.html

is there any greater prize than just being right? Smile Robert, your base came from Dale ???
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