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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:25 am

So, Mike, what do you think about the 4-stroke penalty Lexi was assessed??? I will likely agree with you...and I will put ear plugs in to "hear" your take Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:54 am

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So, Mike, what do you think about the 4-stroke penalty Lexi was assessed??? I will likely agree with you...and I will put ear plugs in to "hear" your take Very Happy

when I see Lexi crying, I`m soon crying...and want to {ear plug time} the people that made her cry...Golf and esp the LPGA better wise up, and fast...NO TIME to be waiting for the Royal and Ancients to approve...
new movie coming soon...

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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:52 am

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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:52 am

Check this one out if you get bored Mike-- linebred old time Charolais. "Registration papers only if requested". Ultrasound backfat almost all under 0.1 inches, big enough Ribeyes for their weight. Dirty, hairy bulls that can really walk in the videos if you can find the videos.

http://www.cobbcharolais.com/index.phtml?p=catalog

I'm going to figure out how to go from Boise, Idaho to Augusta, Montana this summer.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:30 pm

famous herd...

http://www.cobbcharolais.com/index.phtml?p=salevideos&date=2017-04-15&tag=4

I`m looking forward to using and testing terminal trait bulls across most all my cows in these last years; the final test of commercial tru-line usefulness....
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:37 am

hmmm...so there need not be any TRUTH in advertising, there is POWER in advertising because the vast majority wants to BELIEVE instead of KNOW ?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1316238965090132&set=pcb.1316249001755795&type=3&theater

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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:11 am

Kendra, finally some sense of things...

“When we are young we are often puzzled by the fact that each person we admire seems to have a different version of what life ought to be, what a
good man is, how to live, and so on. If we are especially sensitive it seems more than puzzling, it is disheartening. What most people usually do is to
follow one person's ideas and then another's depending on who looms largest on one's horizon at the time. The one with the deepest voice, the
strongest appearance, the most authority and success, is usually the one who gets our momentary allegiance; and we try to pattern our ideals
after him. But as life goes on we get a perspective on this and all these different versions of truth become a little pathetic. Each person thinks
that he has the formula for triumphing over life's limitations and knows with authority what it means to be a man, and he usually tries to win
a following for his particular patent. Today we know that people try so hard to win converts for their point of view because it is more than
merely an outlook on life: it is an immortality formula.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:20 am

I am beginning to better understand the WHY of cattle breeders, the HOW is "relatively simple"...I remember LL`S remark "genes are immortal" and John Gavin Falloon`s 100 yr plus plan; and in a very minor way, my own ambitions ...all fit "the immortality project"

“Man is out of nature and hopelessly in it; he is dual, up in the stars and yet housed in a heart-pumping, breath-gasping body that once belonged to a fish and still carries the gill-marks to prove it. His body is a material fleshy casing that is alien to him in many ways—the strangest and most repugnant way being that it aches and bleeds and will decay and die. Man is literally split in two: he has an awareness of his own splendid uniqueness in that he sticks out of nature with a towering majesty, and yet he goes back into the ground a few feet in order blindly and dumbly to rot and disappear forever.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:59 pm

“Modern man is drinking and drugging himself out of awareness, or he spends his time shopping (for a bull Smile}, which
is the same thing. As awareness calls for types of heroic dedication that his culture no longer provides for him, society contrives to help him forget.
In the mysterious way in which life is given to us in evolution on this planet, it pushes in the direction of its own expansion. We don’t understand it
simply because we don’t know the purpose of creation; we only feel life straining in ourselves and see it thrashing others about as they devour each
other. Life seeks to expand in an unknown direction for unknown reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:13 am


“The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning 

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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:00 pm

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“The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning 

Get an iphone and some tattoos and it won't matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:08 pm

EddieM wrote:
MKeeney wrote:

“The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning 

Get an iphone and some tattoos and it won't matter.
Thou shall not blaspheme the Bannon bible...
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:41 pm

perhaps the new KC logo should be "tranquilizing ourselves with the trivial"...

I have used the term "fetishization," which is exactly the same idea: the "normal" man bites off what he can chew and digest of life, and
no more. In other words, men aren't built to be gods, to take in the whole world; they are built like other creatures, to take in the piece
of ground in front of their noses. Gods can take in the whole of creation because they alone can make sense of it, know what it is all about
and for. But as soon as a man lifts his nose from the ground and starts sniffing at eternal problems like life and death, the meaning of a
rose or a star cluster-then he is in trouble. Most men spare themselves this trouble by keeping their minds on the small problems of their
lives just as their society maps these problems out for them. These are what Kierkegaard called the "immediate" men and the "Philistines."
They "tranquilize themselves with the trivial"- and so they can lead normal lives.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:44 am

“every human being is...equally unfree, that is, we...create out of freedom, a prison...”
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:55 am

“The most terrifying burden of the creature is to be isolated, which is what happens in individuation: one separates himself out of the herd.
This move exposes the person to the sense of being completely crushed and annihilated because he sticks out so much, has to carry so
much in himself. These are the risks when the person begins to fashion consciously and critically his own framework of heroic self-reference.
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:05 pm

Commercial industrialism promised Western man a paradise on earth, described in great detail by the Hollywood Myth,
that replaced the paradise in heaven of the Christian myth. And now psychology must replace them both with the myth
of paradise through self-knowledge. This is the promise of psychology, and for the most part the psychotherapists are
obliged to live it and embody it. But it was Rank who saw how false this claim is. "Psychology as self-knowledge is self-deception,"
he said, because it does not give what men want, which is immortality. Nothing could be plainer.

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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:43 pm

All of the talk and writing beyond the iphone and tattoos is mere filler until you die and then the main thing is to have a top notch obituary. You need a sharp picture from your prime with your hat set at a jaunty angle and have that look of someone the dog would come to if you called. If you really want to be top of the daily dead, you need at least one nickname like "Hard Man", "Cornbread", "Hot Rod", "Stop Sign" or "Tooter". More nicknames are better. Always have some civic activities listed, loving relatives, close friends and educational credentials. Try not to overextend the truth in your last public showing as it sets a poor start for the sale of the cattle, the reading of the will, giving away any decent clothes to Goodwill, throwing away all of the years of accumulated papers and magazines and all of the legal battles to ensue.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:09 am

There is no doubt that creative work is itself done under a compulsion often indistinguishable from a purely clinical obsession. In this sense, what we call a creative gift is merely the social license to be obsessed. And what we call “cultural routine” is a similar license: the proletariat demands the obsession of work in order to keep from going crazy. I used to wonder how people could stand the really demonic activity of working behind those hellish ranges in hotel kitchens, the frantic whirl of waiting on a dozen tables at one time, the madness of the travel agent’s office at the height of the tourist season, or the torture of working with a jack-hammer all day on a hot summer street. The answer is so simple that it eludes us: the craziness of these activities is exactly that of the human condition. They are “right” for us because the alternative is natural desperation. The daily madness of these jobs is a repeated vaccination against the madness of the asylum. Look at the joy and eagerness with which workers return from vacation to their compulsive routines. They plunge into their work with equanimity and lightheartedness because it drowns out something more ominous.”
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:14 am

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There is no doubt that creative work is itself done under a compulsion often indistinguishable from a purely clinical obsession. In this sense, what we call a creative gift is merely the social license to be obsessed. And what we call “cultural routine” is a similar license: the proletariat demands the obsession of work in order to keep from going crazy. I used to wonder how people could stand the really demonic activity of working behind those hellish ranges in hotel kitchens, the frantic whirl of waiting on a dozen tables at one time, the madness of the travel agent’s office at the height of the tourist season, or the torture of working with a jack-hammer all day on a hot summer street. The answer is so simple that it eludes us: the craziness of these activities is exactly that of the human condition. They are “right” for us because the alternative is natural desperation. The daily madness of these jobs is a repeated vaccination against the madness of the asylum. Look at the joy and eagerness with which workers return from vacation to their compulsive routines. They plunge into their work with equanimity and lightheartedness because it drowns out something more ominous.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death
The only thing he left out is the need to put grease fittings on humans since they are merely living machines. But I know that is probably in the next chapter and the next copy and paste. I wonder if in the last chapter it will be the butler that killed the victims?
Eddie, not Zombie-like this AM
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:41 am

“Man must always imagine and believe in a "second" reality or a better world than the one that is given him by nature.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death

funny though, how everyone everyone clings to the REAL world given by nature...a bird in hand preferred over the illusion in the bush...

and there`s the illusion that there must be a better cattle world somewhere, drives someone to spend $15, 000 at WYE or a $150,000 at GAR...

if you`re not part of the solution, there`s a lot of money to be made prolonging the illusion...just ask Frankie Graham ...
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:07 pm

MKeeney wrote:
“Man must always imagine and believe in a "second" reality or a better world than the one that is given him by nature.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death

funny though, how everyone everyone clings to the REAL world given by nature...a bird in hand preferred over the illusion in the bush...

and there`s the illusion that there must be a better cattle world somewhere, drives someone to spend $15, 000 at WYE or a $150,000 at GAR...

if you`re not part of the solution, there`s a lot of money to be made prolonging the illusion...just ask Frankie Graham ...

Nothing better needed than the Ipad and tattoos. Many books are merely literary tattoos or internal tattoos. They make the reader feel linked or better for the commemoration of the buying of a book that occupied their mind and stimulated a sentiment or an emotion for a day or two. But like the external tattoo of a parrot from a tropical vacation, a motorcycle brand from a purchase or a ride, a name from a love, loss or marriage, the sentiment and opinion soon weaken as does the effects of a book made to sell to impress the author with his human or moral superiority. So then the wearer of the tattoo or the reader of the book that was important for a time soon wish for more or less. The reader can hide the fact that he spent time and money to read unfounded opinions while the tattooed individual has to have long sleeves to go to the better job interviews.

If anyone is short on civic activities in their obituary, the name of the pet can fill a line like "his shadow of life, Rover" or some statement of interests like "he liked children". It could be worded better because he might have read a book one time about cannibalism and he really liked children with ketchup. But that is for the obit wordsmiths of this world.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:16 pm

The most important item of the obit is church membership...thankfully, like books there are different varieties that most can find one that agrees with their views...and like a better bull, all promise miracles...and when one doesn't produce for you, find another..
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:51 pm

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the torture of working with a jack-hammer all day on a hot summer street.

summer of 85 was the best thing for me. rattled my head so I didn't think about much.
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:20 am

never more vivid than yesterday, thinking of Larry , as I   watched the outliers of the Beckton sale bring $15,000...as one did at Wye...

“A person spends years coming into his own, developing his talent, his unique gifts, perfecting his discriminations about the world, broadening and sharpening his appetite, learning to bear the disappointments of life, becoming mature, seasoned-finally a unique creature in nature, standing with some dignity and nobility and transcending the animal condition; no longer driven, no longer a complex reflex, not stamped out of any mold. And then the real tragedy, as Andre Malraux wrote in The Human Condition: that it takes sixty years of incredible suffering and effort to make such an individual, and then he is good only for dying. This painful paradox is not lost on the person himself-least of all himself. He feels agonizingly unique, and yet he knows that this doesn't make any difference as far as ultimate's are concerned.”
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PostSubject: Re: Thought provoking excerpts   Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:16 pm

MKeeney wrote:
never more vivid than yesterday, thinking of Larry , as I   watched the outliers of the Beckton sale bring $15,000...as one did at Wye...

“A person spends years coming into his own, developing his talent, his unique gifts, perfecting his discriminations about the world, broadening and sharpening his appetite, learning to bear the disappointments of life, becoming mature, seasoned-finally a unique creature in nature, standing with some dignity and nobility and transcending the animal condition; no longer driven, no longer a complex reflex, not stamped out of any mold. And then the real tragedy, as Andre Malraux wrote in The Human Condition: that it takes sixty years of incredible suffering and effort to make such an individual, and then he is good only for dying. This painful paradox is not lost on the person himself-least of all himself. He feels agonizingly unique, and yet he knows that this doesn't make any difference as far as ultimate's are concerned.”
― Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death

"There is nothing new under the sun" including Becker or Malraux-

"As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.
For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more."

Yet Becker and Malraux offer no hope. Just more words to rearrange, more books to buy and sell, tranquilizers to let them sleep and caffeine to wake them up. Too bad to choose losers. Such a waste. People want hope. Why else do so many buy lottery tickets?
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