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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 am

oh ye, of little sense of self-responsibility...

http://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article157190594.html
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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:38 pm

Here is the thing - we don't set the price - all but 9 of the bulls sold under the hammer were to people who have been buying our bulls for 7 - 40 years - they set the price that they were prepared to pay to get the bull they wanted based on what they saw on the day and on every other sale day that they have been too since Allen sent his first two bulls into a combined sale in 1975.
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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:45 pm

pukerimu wrote:
Here is the thing - we don't set the price - all but 9 of the bulls sold under the hammer were to people who have been buying our bulls for 7 - 40 years - they set the price that they were prepared to pay to get the bull they wanted based on what they saw on the day and on every other sale day that they have been too since Allen sent his first two bulls into a combined sale in 1975.

I know, I know, I know...Smile if I lived in NZ, we would compete...and I`d probably lose as I do here, but there is a better way than one kind attempting to do all things best...sooo, good is not good enough, if there is better Smile
the measurements of this "performance game" don`t even make any sense; obviously, lbs {commercial $} produced per land unit is much more a measure of profitability
than lbs per cow....
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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 am

Another problem with farao size cows - you can lose them in the long grass!



At the going down of the sun........
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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:19 am

Grassfarmer wrote:
Another problem with farao size cows - you can lose them in the long grass!



At the going down of the sun........

wow...living up to your name, my friend... cheers facebook material !
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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:37 am

Having spent our entire lives in the "Fescue Belt", the calf below appears to have the same attitude as I about breeder claims
from outside the area of "fescue adapted" cattle, fescue mineral formulations, and dna testing based on terminal populations
for fescue adaptability in a cowherd.
Breeding has already one-upped those claims; plant breeders, not cattle breeders. This calf has spent one-third of his short life on
novel endophyte Max-q fescue, and the grass pictures of KY 31 show how easy it is incorporate improved varieties of legumes into
pasture...changing weaning weights per cow or weight produced per acre more than any bull you will ever buy...
Fescue has become the SE excuse for terminal genetics that can`t function on grass outside the feedlot energy they have been selected for...

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PostSubject: Re: The Near Perfect Cow   Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:05 pm

Well, according to Disadvantaged, there are new and better EPDs for Angus. Sounds good as it will change some ad content and move cattle that were lesser to be more and cattle that were more to be lesser. So far I have not looked up any EPDs of cattle here or for cattle of interest. We have never sought extremes in birth weight so numbers will not help me. If we can go years without pulling a calf except in presentation issues or the occasional trial heifer I guess we have missed out. We never chased yearling weight or mature weight as that seemed somewhat pointless for economy in a cow herd that was already OK. Weaning weight and milk production are about right for sorry forages and southern heat. Nothing to brag on there. I can tell by the breed back and such. Carcass from some bottom end grassfed steers did well a number of years ago so I'd assume that the goodness is still there as we never wanted more than decent cattle.

I never thought that EPDs did much good in a semi-isolated population. They work best in a wildly and widely bred herd of desperation for fixes and potential achievement for fame, biggest, littlest, most-est or least, depending on the ad and the fad.

I'll look up EPDs sometime when a bull buyer comes in the cooler weather of the fall. Folks like information on the first visit and I don't blame them. For all of the breeders with fashionable herds of Angi hoping for a prestigious herd of renown, congratulations on the movement of your cattle's numbers. May the numbers be with you.

Funny thing: our cattle do not look differently or function differently than they did with the old numbers that were not as accurate. Maybe our cows did not get the press release.
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